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Emergent Renaissance Ecology • Re: Future Of Artificial Intelligence

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To add some context and dilute the hope with a dose of reality (emojis were part of the AI response):

cost per mile: car ownership; public transportation; cabs; ubers; robotaxis. not projected or hoped. actual.
Actual Cost Per Mile Comparison

Here is the real, current cost per mile breakdown for each transportation mode based on actual recent data (excluding hopeful future projections).

???? Car Ownership Cost per mile: $0.75 – $1.10 per mile (average US new car, AAA data).How it works: Includes depreciation, gas/insurance, maintenance, and financing divided across ~10,000–15,000 annual miles.Why it varies: Higher mileage lowers per-mile fixed costs; driving less makes it significantly more expensive per mile.

???? Public Transportation Cost per mile: $0.15 – $0.50 per mile.How it works: Calculated via average single-ride local transit fares (e.g., $1.25–$3.00) divided by typical average trip distances (5–10 miles).Why it works: Highly subsidized by public funds, making it the cheapest per-mile motorized option by far.

???? Traditional Taxis Cost per mile: $2.50 – $4.00+ per mile.How it works: Base drop fees plus regulated per-mile/minute meter rates in major metros.Why it's high: High legacy medallion/fleet overhead, driver wages, and deadhead empty-return miles.

???? Uber / Lyft (Human-Driven) Cost per mile: $2.00 – $3.00 per mile.How it works: Standard consumer fare for UberX/Lyft divided by trip distance.Why it costs this: Driver pay takes the majority (~60%), platform fees take ~30%, and local operational overhead fills the rest.

???? Robotaxis (Waymo / Active Fleets)Cost per mile: $2.00 – $3.50 per mile to the consumer.How it works: Current commercial pricing charged by active autonomous commercial fleets operating in select metro areas. The reality: While labor costs are removed, heavy hardware, R&D amortization, remote monitoring, and small active scale mean consumer prices match human-driven Ubers today.
and robo teslas?
The actual, current consumer price for a Tesla Robotaxi ride ranges from $1.40 to $3.00+ per mile, depending entirely on the length of your trip.Tesla began scaling its fully driverless commercial operations (including deployments of both Model Y fleets and the new two-seat Tesla Cybercab).

Because Tesla has been actively testing price sensitivity, the actual consumer math breaks down into two distinct categories: what it costs you (the fare), and what it costs Tesla to run (the operational cost).

1. What You Actually Pay (Consumer Fares)Tesla currently uses a distance-based pricing model in active test markets like Austin, Texas. The current real-world pricing formula is a $3.00 base fare + $1.40 per mile.Short Trips (Expensive per mile): If you take a short 2-mile trip, it costs $5.80—working out to $2.90 per mile.Long Trips (Cheaper per mile): For longer trips, the base fee is diluted. Real-world ride data shows a 19.4-mile trip cost a total bill that averaged out to $1.41 per mile.The Bottom Line: On average, a standard mid-range trip lands around $1.50 to $2.00 per mile, making it cheaper than a standard UberX (which usually sits closer to $2.50–$3.00+ per mile for short/medium hauls).

2. What It Costs Tesla to Run (Internal Operating Cost) While Elon Musk has frequently cited a long-term future goal of sub-$0.20 per mile at massive global scale, independent financial analysts tracking the live fleet calculate the actual current cost differently: Current Reality: Morgan Stanley and fleet analysts pin Tesla's actual internal operating cost between $0.60 and $0.81 per mile. This includes charging (about 2.6 cents/mile in raw electricity), insurance, remote teleoperator monitoring salaries, cleaning, and vehicle depreciation. The Profit Margin: Because it costs Tesla roughly $0.80/mile to run, but they charge consumers $1.40–$3.00+/mile, Tesla is netting a substantial gross profit on active, high-utilization routes.

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Also, cabs aren't gross because they have human drivers. They're gross because they have human passengers. See, for example: Meet the Academics Trying to Stop You From Having Sex in Robotaxis

Statistics: Posted by suomalainen — Tue Sep 22, 2026 3:41 pm